Comments on: HP Proliant ML350 G6 Server Review http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/ the sun, the moon, and everything in between Sat, 01 May 2010 22:56:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: fourfridays http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-306 fourfridays Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:33:54 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-306 Hi Jay. Actually I ended up custom building a FreeNas server instead after I returned this server. Finances sort of played a role in my decision to not pursue the branded path. I have more details regarding the custom server in my post: <a href="http://blog.fourfridays.com/2010/02/21/home-media-server/" target="_blank">http://blog.fourfridays.com/2010/02/21/home-media...</a> As for my recommendations I have had my eyes on the servers out there for quite a bit. I guess the preference depends on the needs. If you need it just for storage, then you are basically not overly concerned about processing, but more on the ability of inserting as many hard drives as possible, and maybe rack mountable (if that is a concern). If its processing and serving up virtual machines, I would recommend (if budget allows), two Quad Core Xeon's with 12GB of Ram minimum. Hi Jay. Actually I ended up custom building a FreeNas server instead after I returned this server. Finances sort of played a role in my decision to not pursue the branded path. I have more details regarding the custom server in my post: http://blog.fourfridays.com/2010/02/21/home-media...

As for my recommendations I have had my eyes on the servers out there for quite a bit. I guess the preference depends on the needs. If you need it just for storage, then you are basically not overly concerned about processing, but more on the ability of inserting as many hard drives as possible, and maybe rack mountable (if that is a concern). If its processing and serving up virtual machines, I would recommend (if budget allows), two Quad Core Xeon's with 12GB of Ram minimum.

]]> By: Jay http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Jay Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:08:08 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-305 May I know which server you buy after you return this? Do you recommend any product instead of ML350 G6? May I know which server you buy after you return this? Do you recommend any product instead of ML350 G6?

]]> By: fourfridays http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-304 fourfridays Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:48:50 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-304 Hey Alex, Oh yes, when the server was doing some activity it would go loud. I mean just at times I would turn the server on, and those 120mm fans would blow like a plane taking off. Apart from that if the server isn't doing any CPU intensive tasks (sharing files for instance) it was humming like a bird. But as soon as you hit it with some serious work, wow. I am not sure if there was a way to control the fans, but I am assuming there could be one. Hey Alex,

Oh yes, when the server was doing some activity it would go loud. I mean just at times I would turn the server on, and those 120mm fans would blow like a plane taking off. Apart from that if the server isn't doing any CPU intensive tasks (sharing files for instance) it was humming like a bird. But as soon as you hit it with some serious work, wow. I am not sure if there was a way to control the fans, but I am assuming there could be one.

]]> By: Alex http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-303 Alex Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:53:12 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-303 Hey Umair, Was it noisy? I read that it is impossibly loud for a home office. Thanks, Alex Hey Umair,

Was it noisy? I read that it is impossibly loud for a home office.

Thanks, Alex

]]> By: fourfridays http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-302 fourfridays Thu, 18 Feb 2010 02:18:04 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-302 Hi Alberto, and thank you for your comment. Really there is no reason to be uncivil. I understand your point on the CPU kit, since it comes with the heatsink. Lets take the following example. I have two CPU's in my server. By some miracle one of the heatsinks I pulled out to reapply the thermal paste got run over by a car. Now HP is telling me to purchase a kit worth $600 to get only the heatsink I need that would probably be worth $60. Prices are for arguments sake. They won't sell me just the heatsink. That is the point we are trying to make here. So if we don't turn to eBay or other sources it really doesn't make sense to buy a kit with a CPU when I have a perfectly working CPU and am only missing the heatsink. Hi Alberto, and thank you for your comment. Really there is no reason to be uncivil. I understand your point on the CPU kit, since it comes with the heatsink. Lets take the following example. I have two CPU's in my server. By some miracle one of the heatsinks I pulled out to reapply the thermal paste got run over by a car. Now HP is telling me to purchase a kit worth $600 to get only the heatsink I need that would probably be worth $60. Prices are for arguments sake. They won't sell me just the heatsink. That is the point we are trying to make here. So if we don't turn to eBay or other sources it really doesn't make sense to buy a kit with a CPU when I have a perfectly working CPU and am only missing the heatsink.

]]> By: Alberto http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Alberto Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:51:38 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-301 So, you meatheads buy a server, source bits and pieces from ebay etc and then moan like a bunch of little girls when you don't have all the parts necessary? Lets wonder why the CPU kits you bought were cheaper than HPs. maybe because they didnt have all the parts required with them. You buy the upgrade parts from HP and you will get all the required pieces. you then blame HP for being shoddy. Can you not understand that in your haste to save a few bucks you've made the job, long and painful and ultimately probably more expensive then doing it right in the 1st place. spastics. So, you meatheads buy a server, source bits and pieces from ebay etc and then moan like a bunch of little girls when you don't have all the parts necessary? Lets wonder why the CPU kits you bought were cheaper than HPs.
maybe because they didnt have all the parts required with them. You buy the upgrade parts from HP and you will get all the required pieces. you then blame HP for being shoddy. Can you not understand that in your haste to save a few bucks you've made the job, long and painful and ultimately probably more expensive then doing it right in the 1st place.
spastics.

]]> By: fourfridays http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-59 fourfridays Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:54:20 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-59 Hi Mark, I actually returned my ML350 G6 within 30 days of purchase due to lack of parts availability. But I would love to answer your questions. There are 2 versions of the ML350 G6, there is the SFF (Short Form Factor) and the LFF (Large Form Factor). For your purposes you will need the LFF version of the Server. What the difference between the 2 versions is that the LFF will take up to 6 3.5" SATA or SAS Hard Drives. These are what you may refer to as your normal hard drives, the 1 to 2TB. The SFF will accept up to 8 2.5" Hard Drives. These are the more expensive and lower capacity hard drives. If you already have the SFF form factor not all is lost. You can insert up to 4 SATA 3.5" HDD below your DVD-Rom. Make sure you get a nice long SATA cable. The distance is considerable from the drive bay to the motherboard. But if you have the LFF form factor and wish to use the cage here is the catch. You have to buy the trays that hard drives go in separately and then you can insert any 3.5" HDD you like in them. They don't have to be from HP. When you buy them from HP they come with the tray. So what I did was used eBay and ordered the trays from this really great parts seller Nautilusnet.com. I also did a quick search on eBay and found the trays you would be needing here <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-3-5-LFF-SAS-FC-Tray-Caddy-373211-001-ML350-ML370-G6_W0QQitemZ390137832096QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item5ad606e2a0" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-3-5-LFF-SAS-FC-Tray-Caddy-...</a> Please make sure you read through the description before you order. I am not recommending that these are the only sellers you should buy the trays from, just a point in the right direction :) Hi Mark,

I actually returned my ML350 G6 within 30 days of purchase due to lack of parts availability. But I would love to answer your questions. There are 2 versions of the ML350 G6, there is the SFF (Short Form Factor) and the LFF (Large Form Factor). For your purposes you will need the LFF version of the Server. What the difference between the 2 versions is that the LFF will take up to 6 3.5" SATA or SAS Hard Drives. These are what you may refer to as your normal hard drives, the 1 to 2TB. The SFF will accept up to 8 2.5" Hard Drives. These are the more expensive and lower capacity hard drives.

If you already have the SFF form factor not all is lost. You can insert up to 4 SATA 3.5" HDD below your DVD-Rom. Make sure you get a nice long SATA cable. The distance is considerable from the drive bay to the motherboard. But if you have the LFF form factor and wish to use the cage here is the catch. You have to buy the trays that hard drives go in separately and then you can insert any 3.5" HDD you like in them. They don't have to be from HP. When you buy them from HP they come with the tray. So what I did was used eBay and ordered the trays from this really great parts seller Nautilusnet.com. I also did a quick search on eBay and found the trays you would be needing here http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-3-5-LFF-SAS-FC-Tray-Caddy-...

Please make sure you read through the description before you order. I am not recommending that these are the only sellers you should buy the trays from, just a point in the right direction :)

]]> By: Mark http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-58 Mark Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:28:44 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-58 Hey Umair, I'm going to buy a ML350 G6 as well (same as you) but i want to install 1 Western Digital 1TB harddisk SATA 2 (just a simple and normal harddisk). Is it possible to instal this normal harddisk or is it essential to install the REAL HP harddisks with cage. Normal harddisks are 70 euro and the REAL HP harddisks with cage are 450 euro in holland. Or can i just put every harddisk in the server. Second question is, is there any space to put 4 NORMAL 1TB Western Digital harddisk WITHOUT cage ? Thanks Mark Hey Umair,

I'm going to buy a ML350 G6 as well (same as you) but i want to install 1 Western Digital 1TB harddisk SATA 2 (just a simple and normal harddisk). Is it possible to instal this normal harddisk or is it essential to install the REAL HP harddisks with cage. Normal harddisks are 70 euro and the REAL HP harddisks with cage are 450 euro in holland.
Or can i just put every harddisk in the server.

Second question is, is there any space to put 4 NORMAL 1TB Western Digital harddisk WITHOUT cage ?

Thanks Mark

]]> By: Umair Abbasi http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Umair Abbasi Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:17:25 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-36 Jason, Thank you so much for sharing. It was so painful going through all those support calls and being bounced back and forth among departments. Its surprising even at this stage you still have to get the parts from elsewhere. I think I did a good job on raising the awareness of the issue over at HP, but am surprised nothing has been done about it yet. Jason,

Thank you so much for sharing. It was so painful going through all those support calls and being bounced back and forth among departments. Its surprising even at this stage you still have to get the parts from elsewhere. I think I did a good job on raising the awareness of the issue over at HP, but am surprised nothing has been done about it yet.

]]> By: Jason http://blog.fourfridays.com/2009/09/19/hp-proliant-ml350-g6-server-review/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Jason Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:58:11 +0000 http://blog.fourfridays.com/?p=71#comment-33 I feel your pain. Spent hours trying to find the parts. Below is a link to the heatsink. You can also get the extra 92mm fans(511774-001)and Memory baffle ( 511773-001). Heatsink number is 508876-001. I don't remember exact prices but they were all below $60. Hope this helps others out who may find this post in their search for these rediculously hard to find parts. http://www.dectrader.com/_search.php?page=1&q=508876-001 I feel your pain. Spent hours trying to find the parts. Below is a link to the heatsink. You can also get the extra 92mm fans(511774-001)and Memory baffle ( 511773-001). Heatsink number is 508876-001. I don’t remember exact prices but they were all below $60. Hope this helps others out who may find this post in their search for these rediculously hard to find parts.

http://www.dectrader.com/_search.php?page=1&q=508876-001

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